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June 9, 2013 Edition

Black Hills Nat’l Forest, South Dakota

3989_20015_Black_Hills_National_Forest_md_200pxThe claim: north of Edgemont, southwest part of state. WWII internment camp being renovated.What it really is: A bogus claim. There are neither any Japanese internment camps, nor POW camps located in the state of South Dakota.

Warsaw, Missouri

The claim: Unconfirmed report of a large concentration camp facility.What it really is: Using Google maps the largest facilities that I found there was a Walmart and a U-Haul dealer. Nothing there even comes close to looking like a FEMA camp.

Ft. Leonard Wood, Missouri

The claim: Situated in the middle of Mark Twain National Forest in Pulaski County. This site has been known for some UN training, also home to the US Army Urban Warfare Training school “Stem Village”.What it really is: Fort Leonard Wood has not hosted any training for UN troops, or any other foreign troops here, nor does it host urban combat training, although it is used for the Army Police Corps training.

afb_250pxRichards-Gebaur AFB, Missouri

The claim: located in Grandview, near K.C.MO. A very large internment facility has been built on this base, and all base personnel are restricted from coming near it.What it really is: This Air Force base was closed down in 1994. A few companies do use the site, but much of it is now the in a deteriorating state.

Oakdale, Louisiana

The claim: Located on US route 165 about 50 miles south of Alexandria; two federal detention centers just southeast of Fort Polk.What it really is: There are in fact two Federal detention centers here. One is called the Federal Correctional Institution, Oakdale, and houses low security inmates.The other one is called the Federal Detention Center, Oakdale, and houses male hold over inmates, pre-trial inmates, and minimum security inmates in a prison camp.

Livingston, Louisiana

The claim: WWII German/Italian internment camp being renovated?; halfway between Baton Rouge and Hammond, several miles north of Interstate 12.What it really is: The World War Two interment camp (known as Camp Livingston) was shut down in 1945. The site of the camp is now run by the U.S. Forest Service, and is open to the public for any one who wishes to explore the site and see what remains.

Ft. Polk, Louisiana

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The claim: This is a main base for UN troops & personnel, and a training center for the disarmament of America.

What it really is: Fort Polk is an army and National Guard training base. The land on which Fort Polk is on also has multiple historical and archaeological sites located on it as well, information of which can be found here.

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June 1, 2013 Edition

Topeka, Kansas

ALEXJONESFOIL_250pxThe claim: 80 acres has been converted into a temporary holding camp.What it really is: I’ve taken a look at Topeka using Google maps, and there aren’t many places within the city limits that are empty, nor is there any places that look like a holding camp. Plus, consider that the city has a population of over 127,000 people, it would be pretty hard to hide something like that.

El Dorado, Kansas

The claim: Federal prison converted into forced-labor camp, UNICOR industries.

What it really is: There is a near by maximum security prison near by, but it’s run by the State of Kansas, not the Federal government.

Ft. Riley, Kansas

The claim: Just north of Interstate 70, airport, near city of Manhattan.

What it really is: A large army post with many buildings located within it’s boarders, including civilian housing and businesses. It also has several museums.

Concordia, Kansas

The claim: WWII German POW camp used to exist at this location but there is no facility there at this time.

What it really is: So what was the point of listing this?

McConnell Air Force Base, Kansas
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The claim: Federal death penalty facility.

What it really is: Completely bogus. There is no Federal death penalty facility or Federal prisons there.

Leavenworth, Kansas

The claim: US Marshal’s Fed Holding Facility, US Penitentiary, Federal Prison Camp

What it really is: Yes, there is a United States Federal prison there, an until 2005 it was a maximum security prison Today it is a medium security prison with a minimum security satellite prison camp.

This is all publicly known, and does not mean that it is a FEMA camp.

Omaha, Arkansas

The claim: Northeast of Berryville near Missouri state line, on Hwy 65 south of old wood processing plant. Possible crematory facility.

What it really is: It’s just your typical small town, with it’s largest buildings being a couple of schools, some stores, and some churches.

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May 26, 2013 Edition

Berryville, Arkansas

The claim: FEMA facility located east of Eureka Springs off Hwy. 62.

What it really is: Using Google maps I’ve found numerous large building in this area, but most of them are commercial properties, and none of them look like a prison camp.

national_guard_logoBlythville AFB, Arkansas

The claim: Closed airbase now being used as camp. New wooden barracks have been constructed at this location. Classic decorations – guard towers, barbed wire, high fences.

What it really is: Eaker Air Force Base (which is it’s actual name) was closed in 1992, and is now the Arkansas International Airport. The only military presence there is the Arkansas National Guard that uses the airport for helicopter training.

Rohwer, Arkansas

The claim: Descha County – site of WWII Japanese camps

What it really is: Only a few structures of this former camp remain.

In 1992 the camp was declared a National Historic Landmark, and is opened to the public.

Jerome, Arkansas

The claim: Chicot/Drew Counties – site of WWII Japanese camps

What it really is: There was a Japanese interment camp here, but it is long gone.

The town itself is very small, with the largest buildings there being a couple of small warehouses that are not surrounded by any fences.

pinebluffarsenalPine Bluff Arsenal, Arkansas

The claim: This location also is the repository for B-Z nerve agent, which causes sleepiness, dizziness, stupor; admitted use is for civilian control.

What it really is: The site did house BZ, but the facility the housed it was destroyed in 1999.

The site itself, while large, mostly contains small buildings used for storage.

Ft. Chaffee, Arkansas

The claim: (near Fort Smith, Arkansas) – Has new runway for aircraft, new camp facility with cap of 40,000 prisoners.

What it really is: Fort Chaffee is a National Guard base for the state of Arkansas.

The base has also been used to house refugees. In 2005 it was used to house 10,000 people affected by Hurricane Katrina. Any one of those people could have seen a prison camp there, if it was there, and yet none have.

Mather AFB, California

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Mather Air Force Base closed in 1993.

The claim: Road to facility is blocked off by cement barriers and a stop sign. Sign states area is restricted; as of 1997 there were barbed wire fences pointing inward, a row of stadium lights pointed toward an empty field, etc. Black boxes on poles may have been cameras.

What it really is: Mather Air Force Base was closed in 1993, and is now the Sacramento Mather Airport.

Barbed wire fences, stadium lights, cement barriers, stop signs, and cameras are all very common thing for public airports, and are necessary for both security and safety measures.

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May 11, 2013 Edition

Tule Lake, California

The claim: area of “wildlife refuge”, accessible by unpaved road, just inside Modoc County.

What it really is: It is a National Wildlife Refuge that is surrounded by farm land.

Norton AFB, California

San-Bernardino-Airport-1_250pxThe claim: (closed base) now staffed with UN according to some sources.

What it really is: The base was closed in 1994, and is now the San Bernardino International Airport.

Vandenburg AFB, California

The claim: Rex 84 facility, located near Lompoc & Santa Maria. Internment facility is located near the oceanside, close to Space Launch Complex #6, also called “Slick Six”. The launch site has had “a flawless failure record” and is rarely used.

What it really is: First, Space Launch Complex 6 has not had a flawless launch record. Second, while the launch complex hasn’t been used as much as others, it is still used (the last launch from there was in 2012).

As for the oceanside internment facility, this probably doesn’t exist due to the fact that Vandenburg AFB is located two to three miles away from the coast.

everglades_250pxPensacola, Florida

The claim: Federal Prison Camp Everglades – It is believed that a facility may be carved out of the wilds here.

What it really is: First, Pensascola is no where near the Everglades. Second, there is already a prison near the Everglades, it called the Everglades Correctional Institution. It’s run by the state, not the Federal government, and it holds minimum to medium security prisoners.

Eglin AFB, Florida

The claim: This base is over 30 miles long, from Pensacola to Hwy 331 in De Funiak Springs. High capacity facility, presently manned and populated with some prisoners.

What it really is: Eglin is a major Air Force base, it is not however over 30 miles long. It is infact only two miles long.

It once did host a prison camp, but it was minimum security, and it closed in 2006.

Camp Krome, Florida

The claim: DoJ detention/interrogation center, Rex 84 facility

What it really is: It’s an abandoned site. The only thing that’s there are a few decaying building with graffiti on them.

Avon Park, Florida

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The claim: Air Force gunnery range, Avon Park has an on-base “correctional facility” which was a former WWII detention camp.

What it really is: The base never hosted a POW detention camp, and portions of the base itself has been declared land surplus over the years and has been sold off.

There is a prison there, but it’s run by the Florida Department of Corrections, not the Federal government.

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FC_fema-1_300pxI’ve done quite a bit of research into “FEMA camps” (which is a conspiracy theory that claims that the government has constructed these prison camps around the country that are to be run by FEMA to hold American citizens in that disagree with the government) and there are several things that I’ve noticed about these camps.

So here are five things I’ve noticed about FEMA camps:

5. There are apparently a lot of them.

According to many conspiracy theorist websites, there are hundreds of FEMA camps scattered across the United States and Canada.

While the numbers tend vary from website to website, some report as few as 300 “identified” FEMA camps, and perhaps as many as over 900 “identified” FEMA camps.

I find it amazing that so many of these camps have been “identified”, yet the only people they have caught the attention of are conspiracy theorists (particularly those in the Sovereign Citizens/Patriot Movement). Of course these numbers really don’t mean anything, because…

4. They can be anywhere.

Also according to many websites that promote the FEMA camp conspiracy theories, FEMA camps can be just about anywhere, be it a military base, a hospital, a prison, a warehouse, an airport, a rail depot, a seaport, any place with a fence with barbed wire at the top…

Oh, and any place that has an open field and is open to the public. Those places can also apparently be FEMA camps too.

3. Apparently they’ve been around for a while.

ALEXJONESFOIL_250pxFrom the research I’ve done into these FEMA camp claims, I have found that these claims have been around for a long time.

The first time I actually heard someone claim these places were real was back in the mid-1990′s, and I have found out these claims are even older, even going back as far back as the 1970′s.

It’s kind of strange that FEMA camps have apparently been around for so long, and yet the government has yet to use them, or enact this fascist “police state” plan that many conspiracy theorists claim is going to happen when the government starts shipping people to these camps.

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May 5, 2013 Edition

Hammond, Indiana

The claim: large enclosure identified in FEMA-designated city.

What it really is: Located right next to Chicago, Hammond has multiple manufacturing centers located within the city, any one of which could probably be confused as a FEMA camp to a person who thinks that FEMA camps are real.

Newport, Indiana

newpoetThe claim: Army Depot – VX nerve gas storage facility. Secret meetings were held here in 1998 regarding the addition of the Kankakee River watershed to the Heritage Rivers Initiative.

What it really is: The Newport Chemical Depot did store VX nerve gas there, at least until 2008 when it was all destroyed.

The depot itself was closed in June 2010, and is now in plans with the local community to be used for civilian use.

Jefferson Proving Grounds, Indiana

The claim: Southern Indiana – This facility was an active base with test firing occuring daily. Portions of the base have been opened to create an industrial park, but other areas are still highly restricted. A camp is believed to be located “downrange”. Facility is equipped with an airfield and has a nearby rail line.

What it really is: The base was closed in 1995. The Army does maintain have a small, on-sight staff to oversee the cleaning up of the area.

Currently 50,000 acres of the firing line have been turned into the Big Oaks National Wildlife Refuge, and a 1,000 acres north of the firing line is being used by the Indiana Air National Guard.

There is what was once an old air field to the south, but the buildings there that would support it are mostly gone, and the runways either degrading, or are gone.

Grissom AFB, Indiana

grissomThe claim: This closed airbase still handles a lot of traffic, and has a “state-owned” prison compound on the southern part of the facility.

What it really is: It’s actual name is the Grissom Air Reserve Base, and it is not closed.

The claim about the state prison there is true, and has a population of over 3,100 medium to high security prisoners there (which would mean that it’s pretty full). This does not mean however that the prison is a FEMA camp.

The base also has a joint-use agreement allowing for the runway to be used by civilians as well.

Jasper-Pulaski Wildlife Area, Indiana

The claim: Youth Corrections farm located here. Facility is “closed”, but is still staffed and being “renovated”. Total capacity unknown.

What it really is: A bogus claim. There is no youth corrections farm located there, nor or there any buildings located in the wildlife area.

The land is also open to the public as well for hunting and recreation.

Kingsbury, Indiana

Munitions are processed at Kingsbury Ordnance Plant during World War II. Photo courtesy of LaPorte County Historical Society Museum

The claim: This “closed” military base is adjacent to a state fish & wildlife preserve. Part of the base is converted to an industrial park, but the southern portion of this property is still used. It is bordered on the south by railroad, and is staffed with some foreign-speaking UN troops. A local police officer who was hunting and camping close to the base in the game preserve was accosted, roughed up, and warned by the English-speaking unit commander to stay away from the area. It was suggested to the officer that the welfare of his family would depend on his “silence”. Located just southeast of LaPorte.

What it really is: First, there wasn’t a military base there, just an ordinance plant there, and it closed down after the Korean War.

There really isn’t that much there, as the town has a population of less than 250 people. The only thing around there that might be mistaken for a FEMA camp is some large warehouses south east of the town.

As for the claim of the police officer encounter UN troops, this story appears to be made up. I can not find any information to confirm this actually happen, and apparently no one else has claimed to have been accosted.

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April 21, 2013 Edition

Kingwood, West Virginia

dawsonsign_250pxThe claim: Newly built detention camp at Camp Dawson Army Reservation. More data needed on Camp Dawson.

What it really is: Camp Dawson is a West Virginia Army National Guard training camp that opened in 1909.

There are a few large and newer buildings there, but none of them look like something you would find at a prison camp.

Mill Creek, West Virginia

The claim: FEMA detention facility.

What it really is: A bogus claim.

Looking at the area via Google maps, other then the local elementary school and a couple of industrial buildings, I can’t find anything that would even come close to looking like a prison camp, and even these places would be hard to mistake…

Morgantown, West Virginia

The claim: Federal prison camp located in northern WV; just north of Kingwood.

What it really is: it’s a minimum security Federal prison that holds 1,140 inmates.

Beckley – Alderson – Lewisburg, West Virginia

CorrectionalFacility_250pxThe claim: Former WWII detention camps that are now converted into active federal prison complexes capable of holding several times their current populations. Alderson is presently a women’s federal reformatory.

What it really is: Alderson was opened in 1928. It is minimum security, it has always been a Federal prison for women.

The Federal prison in Beckley is medium security with a minimum security prison camp.

There are no prisons in Lewisburg at all.

Also, none of these places were the sites of World War Two POW camps.

South Central part of state, Nebraska

The claim: Many old WWII sites – some may be renovated.

What it really is: It is a very vague claim that actually doesn’t really tell anything, nor give an exact location.

Northwest, Northeast corners of state, Nebraska

femacamp2_250pxThe claim: FEMA detention facilities – more data needed.

What it really is: Most likely bogus.

The lack of information, plus actual locations, indicates that this was just made up.

Scottsbluff, Nebraska

The claim: WWII German POW camp (renovated?).

What it really is: There was a POW camp there that closed in 1946. There isn’t much information about the camp, but from what I have found, there is probably nothing left of it anymore.

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Does Army Field Manual FM 3-39.40 prove FEMA camps are real?

Does Army Field Manual FM 3-39.40 prove FEMA camps are real?

Recently I read a comment on Illuminutti.com that was posted on a reblogging of several FEMA camp sites that were debunked on this site.

The comment (you can see the comment here) was concerning a US military document and training manual called FM 3-39.40 (alternate link) also known as Internment and Resettlement Operation.

The document is believed by many conspiracy theorists to be “proof” that the United States government is going to place citizens in interment camps and that the military was being trained to operate these places.

The person whom left comment also left a Youtube video concerning this as well:

While watching the video (which is 3:37 minutes, but tries to explain a 325 page document in that time frame) I could tell that the person who made it was obviously quote mining the document and taking a lot of things out of context, with many things that were just not mentioned.

One thing that was not mentioned was the Introduction section . . .

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April 7, 2013 Edition

Department_of_Corrections_of_PennsylvaniaSchuylkill Haven, Pennsylvania

The claim: Federal prison camp, north of Reading.

What it really is: It’s a medium security prison that has a minimum security prison camp. The prison holds 1,330 inmates, with 340 in the prison camp.

New Cumberland Army Depot, Pennsylvania

The claim: on the Susquehanna River, located off Interstate 83 and Interstate 76.

What it really is: It’s an Army base that employs 3,000 civilian personnel and 100 military personnel.

Camp Hill, Pennsylvania

The claim: State prison close to Army depot. Lots of room, located in Camp Hill, Pa.

What it really is: The prison that is being refereed to is called the State Correctional Institution, Camp Hill.

The prison houses 3,400 inmates. While there are many buildings there, I wouldn’t say that there is lots of room because the buildings are pretty tightly packed together. In fact there has been over capacity problems at the prison in the past, which may have been one of the factors that lead to a major riot at the prison in 1989.

Indianatown gapIndiantown Gap Military Reservation, Pennsylvania

The claim: located north of Harrisburg. Used for WWII POW camp and renovated by Jimmy Carter. Was used to hold Cubans during Mariel boat lift.

What it really is: The base is a National Guard training center, and is controlled by the Pennsylvania National Guard.

It is true that the site was used as a POW camp, and was used to hold Cuban refugees after the Mariel boatlift. What is not true however is that there is a prison camp there. I’ve taken a look at the site using Google maps, and there is nothing there that looks like a prison camp.

Allenwood, Pennsylvania

The claim: Federal prison camp located south of Williamsport on the Susquehanna River. It has a current inmate population of 300, and is identified by William Pabst as having a capacity in excess of 15,000 on 400 acres.

What it really is: There’s actually three Federal prisons there, not one.

The first is a low security prison that can hold 1,450 inmates, a medium security prison that can hold 1,400 inmates, and a high security prison that can hold 1,000 inmates. That’s a total of 3,850 inmates, which is almost four times less than what is claimed the prisons can hold.

Also, William Pabst has been making claims about this sort of stuff since the 1970′s, and he has been described by some people as being unhinged, so any information from him should be considered unreliable.

camp_ripley_250pxCamp Ripley, Minnesota

The claim: new prison facility.

What it really is: It’s a training base for the Minnesota National Guard, the Department of Natural Resources Enforcement Center, and hosts the Minnesota State Patrol Academy. The site also hosts the Minnesota Military Museum and annual deer hunts.

Also, after looking at the site using Google maps, I can find nothing there that looks like a prison.

Duluth, Minnesota

The claim: Federal prison camp facility.

What it really is: Not a FEMA camp. It’s a minimum security Federal Prison camp that holds about 800 prisoners.

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Is that a FEMA Camp? is a blog dedicated to investigating claims of FEMA camp locations. Below is some of their findings. Enjoy :)

April 3, 2013 Edition

Lansing, Michigan

The claim: FEMA detention facility.

What it really is: There are several urban renewal projects happening around the city, some of these projects may be mistaken as a FEMA camp to people who think that FEMA camps are real.

femacamp2_250pxSouthwest – possibly Berrien County, Michigan

The claim: FEMA detention center.

What it really is: This is obviously a bogus claim. Whomever made this claim can’t even give a relatively close location.

The claim is clearly made up.

Bay City, Michigan

The claim: Classic enclosure with guard towers, high fence, and close to shipping port on Saginaw Bay, which connects to Lake Huron. Could be a deportation point to overseas via St. Lawrence Seaway.

What it really is: I’ve taken a look at the city via Google Maps, and despite it’s name, there is no shipping port at Bay City, unless of course you count the public marines and a couple of privately piers. Other then that and a maybe a few industrial centers, there is nothing there that resembles the claim

escape_to_camp_fema_sticker_bumperSawyer AFB, Michigan

The claim: Upper Peninsula – south of Marquette – No data available.

What it really is: This Air Force base was closed in 1995 and in 1999 became the Sawyer International Airport.

Camp Grayling, Michigan

The claim: Michigan Nat’l Guard base has several confirmed detention camps, classic setup with high fences, razor wire, etc. Guard towers are very well-built, sturdy. Multiple compounds within larger enclosures. Facility deep within forest area.

What it really is: Using Google Maps I’ve taken a look around the area of the camp, and the only buildings that I can find that comes even relatively close to what resembles the claim are some private businesses and churches off base and some recreational areas.

conspiracy-theory-alertFt. Devens, Massachusetts

The claim: Active detention facility. More data needed.

What it really is: The base was closed in 1995, but was reopened in 2007 as an Army Reserve installation.

While there isn’t a Federal prison there, there is a Federal Medical center there that handles male inmates requiring specialized or long-term medical or mental health care.

Camp Edwards / Otis AFB – Cape Cod, Massachusetts

The claim: This “inactive” base is being converted to hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown.

What it really is: This base is a training center for the National Guard, and is not inactive.

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(Updated 4/18/13) Also See: FM 3-39.40 proves FEMA camps are real… Or does it? (Is that a FEMA Camp?)

Is that a FEMA Camp? is a blog dedicated to investigating claims of FEMA camp locations. Below is some of their findings. Enjoy :)

March 23, 2013 Edition

Camp+Fema+Roadkill_300pxSheppard AFB, Texas

The claim: in Wichita Falls just south of Ft. Sill, OK. FEMA designated detention facility.

What it really is: It is an Air Force training base, with one of it’s runways being shared with the Wichita Falls Municipal Airport under a joint civil-military arrangement.

I’ve also taken a look at it via Google maps, and nothing there looks like a prison camp.

Amarillo, Texas

The claim: FEMA designated detention facility

What it really is: Amarillo is a fairly decent sized city in Texas (over 190,000) and grew in population by nearly 10% between 2000 and 2010, so the city probably has had several building projects happening (most likely for housing).

Considering that it is a large, populated area, it seems highly unlikely that a FEMA detention facility could be hidden here without someone. Taking this into consideration, and the fact that there is a lack of information about this claim, it has lead me to believe that this claim is bogus.

Reese AFB (Lubbock), Texas

The claim: FEMA designated detention facility.

What it really is: The base was closed in 1997, and is now a research and business park named Reese Technology Center, and the runways are used by model airplane pilots.

dees-fema-camp-billboard2_300pxMexia, Texas

The claim: East of Waco 33mi.; WWII German facility may be renovated.

What it really is: There was a World War Two POW camp there, but it was convert in 1947 for use as the Mexia State School.

Ft. Bliss (El Paso), Texas

The claim: Extensive renovation of buildings and from what patriots have been able to see, many of these buildings that are being renovated are being surrounded by razor wire.

What it really is: Fort Bliss has been a army base since before the Civil War, so it’s not surprising that some of the buildings would occasionally need to be renovated, even including extensive renovations, in order to remain operational. If the building are being surrounded by razor wire it’s probably because they need to keep people out so that the renovations can be completed.

North Dallas, Texas

The claim: near Carrolton – water treatment plant, close to interstate and railroad.

What it really is: It’s a water treatment plant… and that’s all it is. Most cites have water treatment plants. Being near an interstate and a railroad means nothing.

Eden, Texas

The claim: 1500 bed privately run federal center. Currently holds illegal aliens.

What it really is: While everything is factually true (and it probably does hold illegal aliens there that have committed crimes), what is not mentioned is that the prison is a low-security prison.

escape_to_camp_fema_sticker_bumperBastrop, Texas

The claim: Prison and military vehicle motor pool.

What it really is: My question about this is where exactly is this alleged motor pool at? There is not exactly a lot of detail here.

When I did a Google image search for “bastrop texas military” I saw that a lot of photos were of nearby forest fires, so it’s possible these vehicles (if they did exist) were used to transport in solders and even prisoners to fight forest fires.

Austin, Texas

The claim: Robert Mueller Municipal airport has detenion areas inside hangars.

What it really is: A bogus claim.

If this was true then there would simply be no way to hide it.

There are probably caged areas inside of the hangers there, but that is probably to keep people out, not in.

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March 17, 2013 Edition

Lima, Ohio
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The claim: FEMA detention facility. Another facility located in/near old stone quarry near Interstate 75. Railroad access to property, fences etc.

What it really is: Using Google Maps I took a look at the two stone quarries that were located in the general area, and what I found was that they were nothing more than stone quarries. Nothing located at these sites are anything you wouldn’t find at a stone quarry.

Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Ohio

The claim: FEMA detention facilities. Data needed.

What it really is: These are three very large cities that have multiple construction projects going on, with any one of them being easily mistaken for a FEMA camp by anyone who thinks that anything with fencing around it is a FEMA camp.

Ft. Sill (Lawton), Oklahoma

The claim: Former WWII detention camps. More data still needed.

What it really is: Ft. Sill is one of the oldest military bases in the country. The site itself was founded in 1869 and was registered as a National Historic Landmark in 1960.

While the fort was the site of a POW camp during World War Two, the lack of any data tells me that the site is only accused of being a FEMA camp is because it is a military base that had a POW camp located there.

McAlester, Oklahoma

The claim: near Army Munitions Plant property – former WWII German / Italian POW camp designated for future use.

What it really is: According to Oklahoma Historical Society the site of the POW camp was built north of the city, while the munitions plant was built south of the town. As for the former POW camp itself, it’s most likely been torn down and now used for public use.

El Reno, Oklahoma

FC_fema-1_300pxThe claim: Renovated federal internment facility with CURRENT population of 12,000 on Route 66.

What it really is: There is a is a medium security Federal Correctional Institution there called FCI El Reno (with a minimum security prison camp), but it does not have a current population of 12,000, but a population of 1,000 (with a population of 265 in the prison camp).

Will Rogers World Airport, Oklahoma

The claim: FEMA’s main processing center for west of the Mississippi. All personnel are kept out of the security zone. Federal prisoner transfer center located here (A pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up to).

What it really is: Yes, there is a transfer Federal prisoner transfer center (although it’s hexagon shaped, not pentagon shaped) but just because this place exists (which is public knowledge) it does not mean that it is a processing center for FEMA.

Tinker AFB (OKC), Oklahoma

The claim: All base personnel are prohibited from going near civilian detention area, which is under constant guard.

What it really is: It’s a military base, and all military bases have sites on them that you are not allowed to go to unless there is a need for you to be there and would need to be constantly guarded, such as say the hangers where they store the E-6B Mercury airplanes there.

Ft. Lewis / McChord AFB, Washington

Alex Jones believes in FEMA camps.

If Alex Jones believes in FEMA
camps they must be real.

The claim: near Tacoma – This is one of several sites that may be used to ship prisoners overseas for slave labor.

What it really is: These claims are highly questionable at best, and most likely bogus. Besides the fact that there is no evidence what so ever to back this claim up, it doesn’t really make any logical sense.

Why would the government ship people over seas to be used as slave labor when they could be used here?

Sand Point Naval Station – Seattle, Washington

The claim: FEMA detention center used actively during the 1999 WTO protests to classify prisoners.

What it really is: The base (actually called Naval Station Puget Sound) was closed down in 1995, and was divided amongst several entities, including the city of Seattle.

The site itself is now apart of the National Register of Historic Places.

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March 6, 2013 Edition

FEMA-camp-razor-wired_250pxShawnee National Forest – Pope County, Illinois

The claim: This area has seen heavy traffic of foreign military equipment and troops via Illinois Central Railroad, which runs through the area. Suspected location is unknown, but may be close to Vienna and Shawnee correctional centers, located 6 mi. west of Dixon Springs.

What it really is: Completely bogus. Using Google maps I can find nothing that resembles a prison camp inside the national forest that is near the two correctional centers.

As for the claim of foreign military being in the area, none of these claims come from reliable sources, it’s just all copy and pasted from other sites without any additional information to back up the claim.

Greenfield, Illinois

The claim: Two federal correctional “satellite prison camps” serving Marion – populated as above.

What it really is: The site itself is called FCI Greenville, and is a medium security prison that has a separate minimum security prison camp for female inmates, making it necessary for there to be two completely separate facilities.

The prison itself holds 1,180 inmates, with 320 inmates in the prison camp.

Marion, Illinois

The claim: Federal Penitentiary and satellite prison camp inside Crab Orchard Nat’l Wildlife Refuge. Manned, staffed, populated fully.

What it really is: With the exception of the facility being located in Crab Orchard National Wildlife Refuge, everything else is technically true.

The actual facility is called the United States Penitentiary, Marion, and it actually use to be maximum security prison that was built replace Alcatraz, and houses and housed multiple famous and high profile criminals, including Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Zachary Chesser, John Gotti, Viktor Bout, Tony Alamo, and even Pete Rose.

The site itself is now a medium security prison, with a minimum security prison camp. The prison holds over 1,000 inmates, with 350 people in the prison camp.

fema-camps_250pxChanute AFB, Illinois

The claim: Rantoul, near Champaign/Urbana – This closed base had WWII – era barracks that were condemned and torn down, but the medical facility was upgraded and additional fencing put up in the area. More info needed.

What it really is: The base was closed in 1993, but many of the buildings were converted into civilian and commercial use, from light manufacturing, to retirement communities.

The former base also includes a museum called the Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum.

As for the actual claim about the hospital, well, hospitals tend to be expanded to accommodate the population, therefore it is necessary to construct new additions to a hospital, and because construct sites tend to be dangerous places (and has equipment that tends to get stolen) it is necessary to put fencing up around such a site.

The only military presence left at the site is a youth boot camp for troubled youths ages 16 to 18 called the Lincoln’s ChalleNGe Academy that is run by the Illinois National Guard and Air Guard.

Pekin, Illinois

The claim: This Federal satellite prison camp is also on the Illinois River, just south of Peoria. It supplements the federal penitentiary in Marion, which is equipped to handle additional population outside on the grounds.

What it really is: There is a federal prison there with a prison camp on grounds. The prison is called FCI Pekin, it’s a medium security prison, it holds 1,200 prisoners, and it’s prison camp holds 300 minimum security prisoners.

Scott AFB, Illinois

The claim: Barbed wire prisoner enclosure reported to exist just off-base. More info needed, as another facility on-base is beieved to exist.

What it really is: No such facilities exist on the base, nor near the base. In fact the airfield there is open to commercial aircraft, and other civilian facilities there as well, including colleges.

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February 22, 2013 Edition

Fort Wainwright, Alaska

FC_fema-1_300pxThe claim: East of Fairbanks

What it really is: Actually it’s inside Fairbanks city limits.

With the exception of perhaps the Bassett Army Community Hospital, nothing there looks like something you would find on a prison camp, and considering that it is within the city limits, it would be hard hide a prison camp there.

Eielson AFB, Alaska

The claim: Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.

What it really is: It’s a large Air Force base that’s only a couple of miles from Fairbanks, and has a highway running through it.

There are family housing units there, and none of the buildings there looks like what you would find in a typical prison camp.

Elmendorf AFB, Alaska

The claim: Northeast area of Anchorage – far end of base. Garden Plot facility.

What it really is: It’s an Air Force base within Anchorage that was built right before World War Two.

The base itself is pretty compact for an Air Force base, but still, none of the buildings look like something from a prison camp, and actually look like what you would find on a typical Air Force base.

Also, it would be pretty hard to hide prison camp around a city as large as Anchorage.

Wilderness, Alaska

alexjones_animated_1The claim: East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000

What it really is: I was about to brush this off as being not having enough information, but I decided to go to one of these FEMA camp websites that actually had the location pinned on Google maps, and I took a look at the pinned location in satellite view, and the only things I found around there were a few houses and roads, a highway, and nothing that can hold half a million people.

East Yellowstone, Wyoming

The claim: Manned internment facility – Investigating patriots were apprehended by European soldiers speaking in an unknown language. Federal government assumed custody of the persons and arranged their release.

What it really is: First let me ask, “Why would the United States be using foreign soldiers for?” That does not make any sense.

Considering how many people visit Yellowstone every year (about 3.4 million, many of them European) it would be pretty hard to keep such facility there hidden from public view.

Considering that there is no exact location of this alleged facility or details, by all appearances this story is most likely made up.

Southwest, Wyoming

The claim: near Lyman – FEMA detention facility

What it really is: This claim appears to be bogus.

I’ve taken a look around the area and other then a few schools and large churches, I can’t find any buildings that might resemble a prison camp around the area.

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February 16, 2013 Edition

FEMAD_300pxWilderness areas, Idaho

The claim: Possible location. No data.

What it really is: Due to the sheer fact that there is no data about this, nor is there a general location (just says it is in a wilderness area, which there is a lot of in Idaho) this claim appears to just be made up.

Clearwater National Forest, Idaho

The claim: Near Lolo Pass – Just miles from the Montana state line near Moose Creek, this unmanned
facility is reported to have a nearby airfield.

What it really is: Using Google maps in satellite view I can find no airfields in the general area, nor does it appear that an airfield could be put there to begin with due to the terrain.

There is also very little in the way of structures in the area, nor are any of the structures large enough to house a prison camp.

This claim is bogus.

Alex Jones believes in FEMA camps.

If Alex Jones believes in FEMA
camps they must be real.

Minidoka/Jerome Counties, Idaho

The claim: WWII Japanese-American internment facility possibly under renovation.

What it really is: The Japanese internment camp that is being refereed to is called the Minidoka National Historic Site, and is formerly known as the Minidoka War Relocation Center.

The site itself was very large, and held over 9,000 people there during World War Two. In 1979 the site was listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and in 2001 it was listed as a National Park, which means that it is open to the public.

In 2006 money was granted by the government to restore the site for historical purposes.

Fort Stewart, Georgia

The claim: Savannah area – FEMA designated detention facility

What it really is: Fort Stewart is a large US Army post, and also trains members of the National Guard there as well. The base also families living there, whom live in military housing units that are typical for bases of such size.

I’ve also taken an satellite view of the base via Google maps, and none of the buildings there actually look like it something from a prison camp. Everything there looks like what you would typically find on a normal military base.

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Via RationalWikiFEMA concentration camps exist in the mind of a particularly loopy bunch of conspiracy theorists, who believe that mass internment facilities have been built across the continental United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, in preparation for a future declaration of martial law.

Is that a FEMA Camp? is a blog dedicated to investigating claims of FEMA camp locations. Below is some of their findings. Enjoy :)

February 13, 2013 Edition

Camp+Fema+Roadkill_300pxFort Gillem, Georgia

The claim: South side of Atlanta – FEMA designated detention facility.

What it really is: The base houses many different supply and support units including the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Laboratory and the 3rd MP Group (CID), both units of the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command, and employs 456 active duty Army personnel, 1,663 Army reservist, and 1,667 civilians.

The base itself houses many large buildings there that appear to be warehouses, some of which are right across the street from civilian houses. The base itself is surrounded by the city of Forest Park. It seems unlikely that a FEMA camp could be hidden here.

McRae, Telfair County, Georgia

The claim: 1.5 miles west of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St., manned & staffed – no prisoners.

What it really is: The only things there that I believe would be mistaken for a FEMA camp is the Telfair State Prison, that was opened in 1992 and holds over 1100 inmates.

The facility is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.

Abbeville, Georgia

dees-fema-camp-billboard2_300pxThe claim: South of Hawkinsville on US route 129; south of town off route 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility is staffed but without prisoners.

What it really is: It is the Wilcox State Prison. It is a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, and can hold 1,700 prisoners. The prison is run by the Georgia Department of Correction, and not FEMA.

Hawkinsville, Wilcox County, Georgia

The claim: Five miles east of town, fully manned and staffed but no prisoners. Located on fire road 100/Upper River Road

What it really is: Most likely the facility that is being mistaken for a FEMA camp is the Pulaski State Prison, a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, and houses over 1,200 female inmates.

This prison is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.

Camilla, Georgia

The claim: Mitchell County, south of Albany. This FEMA facility is located on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of Camilla. Unmanned – no prisoners, no staff.

What it really is: First, Mt. Zion Rd is not south of Camilla, it’s east of it.

The only buildings around that area that might even come close to being mistaken for a FEMA camp are some long warehouses in a wooded area behind a house that look like they are being used for some storage areas for a farm (as there is a lot of farm land there).

Morgan, Calhoun County, Georgia

The claim: FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed – no prisoners.

What it really is: There is a facility there that is pretty darn big, and even had me confused for a while, but eventually I found out what it was. It is the Calhoun State Prison. It is a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, can hold over 1500 prisoners, and is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.

Oglethorpe, Macon County, Georgia

The claim: facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.

What it really is: After reviewing the area on Google maps in satellite mode I’ve determined that the location that is most likely being mistaken for a FEMA camp are multiple long animal warehouses at a poultry farm owned by Tyson Foods (I.E. giant chicken coups).

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FEMA Camp locations!

Via RationalWikiFEMA concentration camps exist in the mind of a particularly loopy bunch of conspiracy theorists, who believe that mass internment facilities have been built across the continental United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, in preparation for a future declaration of martial law.

Is that a FEMA Camp? is a blog dedicated to investigating claims of FEMA camp locations. Below is some of their findings. Enjoy :)

February 8, 2013 Edition

FEMA-camp-razor-wired_250pxFt. Carson, Colorado

The claim: Along route 115 near Canon City

What it really is: After doing some investigation using Google maps I have found the building in the general location that I believe is the one being mistaken for a FEMA camp. The building is called the Cross Roads Arena and Event Center.

Granada, Prowers County, Colorado

The claim: WWII Japanese internment camp

What it really is: Yes, there was a Japanese internment camp there. All but one of the original buildings there were torn down or removed, and the site itself is now described as a desolate and lonely place.

In 2006 the site was named a National Historic Landmark. Also in 2006 President George W. Bush signed into law H.R. 1492 granting $38,000,000 to preserve and restore the site and nine other Japanese internment camps for historical and educational purposes.

Trinidad, Colorado

The claim: WWII German/Italian camp being renovated.

What it really is: Yes, there was a World War Two German/Italian POW camp there. The claim about the camp renovated is false. It’s now pretty much an open field there, and what structures there that are left are dilapidated and crumbling apart.

fema-camps_250pxHonolulu, Hawaii

The claim: Detention transfer facility at the Honolulu airport similar in construction to the one in.Oklahoma (pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up to).

What it really is: Using Google Maps satellite view of the airport, and I can not find any pentagon shaped building there at all, neither on the public part, nor the military controlled part.

This claim is bogus.

Barbers Point NAS, Hawaii

The claim: There are several military areas that could be equipped for detention / deportation.

What it really is: The navy and marine air station, the Naval Air Station Barbers Point, was closed in the 1990′s, and the only military presence there today is a few planes and helicopters there that are operated by the US Coast Guard. It should also be noted that it is the only Coast Guard Air Station within the 14th United States Coast Guard District.

The site itself is now called the Kalaeloa Airport, and is open to the public. Other then the Coast Guard, there is no military presence there.

Halawa Heights area, Hawaii

The claim: Crematory facility located in hills above city. Area is marked as a state department of health laboratory.

What it really is: This location is a laboratory run by the state department of health. In 2005 the laboratory began upgrading to Biosafety level-3 (which is the second highest Biosafety level). Because of this having an onsite crematorium for the facility makes perfectly logical sense as you don’t have to take hazardous biological material off site and run the risk of it accidentally being released into the population, and just destroy it right then and there. In fact most onsite laboratories such as this usually do have their own onsite crematoriums for such this reason.

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Claimed “FEMA Camp” locations

Via RationalWikiFEMA concentration camps exist in the mind of a particularly loopy bunch of conspiracy theorists, who believe that mass internment facilities have been built across the continental United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, in preparation for a future declaration of martial law.

Is that a FEMA Camp? is a blog dedicated to investigating claims of FEMA camp locations. Below is some of their findings. Enjoy :)

February 3, 2013 Edition

Ft. Drum, New York

The claim: two compounds: Rex 84 detention camp and FEMA detention facility.

What it really is: First let me ask this: why would there be two different detention camps run by two different groups, especially when they’re doing the exact same thing? It makes far more sense to have one compound run by one group.

Anyways, the army base itself is huge, and contains nearly 13,000 people there at any given time, and is used to train up to 80,000 troops there annually.

The base also has a large amount of housing for military families, and employment opportunities for civilians as well.

The base borders several towns, and several other towns actually have parts of their townships within the base itself.

Considering all of this, it would be pretty hard to hide one prison camp there, much less two.

Malmstrom AFB, Montana

The claim: UN aircraft groups stationed here, and possibly a detention facility.

What it really is: It’s a major base with about 3,500 people living on base (and this has been decreasing), and not just military personal either, but families as well, including families with children.

The claim that UN air groups are stationed their is apparently a bogus, and after reviewing a satellite photo of the base using Google Maps the claim that a detention facility is there is also by all appearances bogus as well. None of the buildings look like anything that you wouldn’t find on an Air Force base, and a detention facility would be pretty hard to hide there in the first place because it’s in a very open place, with a town right next to it. There are no mountains or heavily wooded areas on the base, nor really any places to hide a detention facility at.

Houlton, Maine

The claim: WWII German internment camp in Northern Maine, off US Route 1.

What it really is: Yes, a German POW camp was there during World War Two, and was a part of the Houlton Army Air Base. At it’s peak the internment camp held 3,700 prisoners.

The base (along with the interment camp) was closed in 1946, and is now the site of the Houlton International Airport.

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Claimed “FEMA Camp” locations

Claimed “FEMA Camp” locations

Also See: Tinfoil Hat Alert! FEMA Camps Still Don’t Exist (VIDEO)

Re-blogged from Is that a FEMA Camp? via The Soap Box

Fema-Camps-300x280There are a lot of claims on websites that promote the FEMA Camp conspiracy theories and the locations of the alleged interment/concentration/prison camps. From my research into these locations, many of these websites have very common trends to them and the locations that are posted.

Here are some things that I have found to be quite common with these location claims, and the websites that promote them:

• The claims about these alleged FEMA camp locations tend to be all alike, word by word.

Many of these websites “expose” these “locations” appear to do a lot of copying and pasting of these claims from other websites. Many times these claims are exactly the same, including misspellings, and lack of any real research.

• Many websites list completely bogus locations.

While many websites misidentify what a location is, or what’s at a location, some of the locations that are claimed never had what was claimed to be there to being with. A good example of this would be the claim that there is a renovated Japanese interment camp in Josephine County, Oregon. There was never a Japanese interment camp in Josephine County, Oregon, and thus the claim is bogus.

• Many websites that list locations sometimes have little to no information on those locations.

I’ve seen a lot of location claims that have very little, to next to none, to no information about the location what so ever. Even the most detailed of claims often are only have about two to three of sentences worth, and provide no in depth details, or creditable evidence to back up the claim that the location is in fact an interment/concentration/prison camp.

• Any true facts given about a location still fails to prove anything.

Yes, sometimes these websites will actually list facts about a location. The problem is that these facts are often muddled with unproven allegations. Even when they aren’t, they still do not prove that the location is a FEMA camp.

Area 51 is not listed as a FEMA camp location.

This one surprised me. Despite all of the conspiracy theories that have been made about this place, being a FEMA camp location is apparently not one of the…

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via The Soap Box

In a previous Embarrassing Conspiracy Theory post I talked about how many conspiracy theorists believe that the government is going to place citizens who object to government authority in prison camps. One of the key pieces of “evidence” for people who believe in these prison camps that are allegedly being built is that there are Executive Orders that have been made by the President which will give the government, FEMA, and the military the authority to round up citizens who object to government authority and ship them off to these alleged prison camps. Often times they also claim that government will create a disaster that will kill millions of people in order to justify the execution of these Executive Orders.

While conspiracy theorists often times cite real Executive Orders as evidence for what they believe is the planned coming of Martial Law, many of the conclusions they come to about these Executive Orders are very deceptive and quite frankly, incorrect.

First, many of the Executive Orders are often claimed to have been made by either President George W. Bush, or President Barack Obama. In perhaps most of these cases this is incorrect, and is either the result of poor or non research, or even an outright lie.

If you do the research you will find that the Executive Orders that are often cited by conspiracy theorists were not made by either President Bush or Obama, but were actually made by either President John Kennedy, of President Lyndon Johnson. In fact most of the Executive Orders that are commonly cited were made during the Cold War when the threat of a nuclear attack by the Soviet Union was very real.

Also, most of the Executive Orders that are cited makes no mention of things like “prison camps” or “Martial law” or anything even of the like. The only things mentioned in these cited Executive Orders that would come even come remotely close is …

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via The Soap Box

Note: Special thanks to Autistic Skeptic for sending me some information on this and then putting this into movie form.

In a previous Embarrassing Conspiracy Theory article I talked about how many conspiracy theorists believe that the government is going to declare martial law and place dissenters into large prison camps run by FEMA, often times called FEMA camps. These conspiracy theorist also believe that the government is stock-piling plastic burial vaults in order to place large amounts of bodies in what is suppose to be the mass killing of millions of citizens via biological weapons, or some other more violent means.

There are multiple photos floating around the internet showing thousands of these plastic burial vaults in highly visible, outdoor storage facilities. Some of these vaults are along major roads and highways, and are very easy to find and access. Many of these facilities don’t even have fences around them, and would allow anyone who wanted to, to go up to one of these places and have a look around.

It seems a tad bit odd the government would have them out in the open like this if they were going to be used in a massive conspiracy to kill millions. This leads to the question that if this was part of some huge conspiracy to kill off millions of people, then why would they be out in the open like they are?

Also, if the government was planning to murder millions, then why would they bother to put the bodies in plastic burial vaults in the first place, when it would be easier and cheaper to bury the bodies without a burial vault?

The only purpose for burial vaults is to protect the casket and the body inside from the dirt outside of it, which would also explain why these vaults are so large and look like they could hold three or four people. So it makes no sense that the government is willing to protect the bodies of millions of people that it’s going to allegedly murder.

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by Brian Dunning via Skepticblog
- Sep 20 2012

News on the conspiracy websites is once again reporting that the US Department of Homeland Security is making huge purchases of ammunition, which they believe is to be used against American citizens. For the entire decade I’ve been following the conspiracy theorists, they’ve been predicting the imminent war on the American people by the American government. That this prediction has always failed to come true every time it’s been made has not seemed to suggest to any of them that perhaps the idea should be reviewed.

This particular report from our old friends at InfoWars cites a purchase of 750 million rounds of ammunition in addition to a previous purchase of 450 million rounds. Evidently it has not occurred to anyone at InfoWars to consider reasons for this other than a war on the citizens.

Why else might Homeland Security buy ammunition? You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. Homeland Security encompasses a huge number of federal agencies. It’s not just FEMA and the TSA, whom the conspiracy theorists usually name as the agencies on the verge of declaring war against us. DHS also includes these five agencies, all of whom blow through a lot of ammo, and are in a constant state of readiness to blow through a whole lot more:

It’s fine to harbor ideological objections to the idea of DHS, FEMA, TSA, what have you; and fine to keep a sharp watchdog eye on the government. What’s stupid is to just make up infantile crap without even taking the trouble to check to see where that ammunition is needed.

Architects didn’t show up for a 9/11-architecture-conspiracy documentary screening—and the AIA doesn’t want its name associated with Trutherism.

By Jeremy Stahl via Architect Magazine

The boardroom at the Washington, D.C., headquarters of the American Institute of Architects is an impressive place: Beautiful concentric wooden desks, with microphones in front of every seat, encircle a small central dais, offering the impression that important discussions are had here. “It feels like the United Nations,” a guest recently commented.

This room recently served as a peculiar venue for the 23rd stop on the 30-city “world premiere tour” of AIA member Richard Gage’s new film 9/11: Explosive Evidence—Experts Speak Out: Final Edition.

Since 2006, Gage has been traveling all over the world under the banner of his organization, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth—an organization that has no affiliation with the AIA, express or otherwise—to preach the theory that the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center were actually brought down by explosives on September 11, 2001, and not the impact of two hijacked jetliners and the resulting fires and debris.

What was even more surreal than the late June screening location for his latest presentation of this argument, though, was hearing the types of speeches that accompany such an absurd event be given in such an austere room.

“I had to be dragged kicking and screaming into believing that our government and the Israeli government, the Israeli Mossad, could be responsible for the Twin Towers demolition,” one member of the DC chapter of 911truth.org declared from the AIA-emblazoned podium.

“At least three firefighters in New York at Ground Zero who came upon a large store of gold at the Twin Towers were executed by FBI… every official story turns out to be a lie,” another local activist said to applause.

Gage feigned to distance his organization, the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, from these remarks, calling the gold story “related” to his work but less “helpful” to its mission than his “irrefutable scientific evidence” that the skyscrapers were brought down by explosives.

The AIA itself, however, is firm about its relationship with Gage. “We don’t have any relationship with his organization whatsoever,” Scott Frank, head of media relations for the AIA, told me.

The former employee of the Walnut Creek, Calif.-based architectural firm Akol & Yoshii is a full-time 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but Gage tries to maintain a façade of being a scientist asking scientific questions. He does his best to avoid the murkier political questions of who could have orchestrated a conspiracy theory and cover-up of the size and scope that the 9/11 conspiracy movement alleges, but his technical views are actually quite mainstream within the Truth movement.

The accusations of Gage’s organization are the typical hodgepodge of pseudo-scientific claims. Along with other esoteric and debunked technical arguments, he says that melted steel was visible at the Ground Zero site proving that the fires burned too hot to have been caused by jet fuel; that because the buildings collapsed at “near free fall speed” there must have been a controlled demolition; and that traces of a thermitereaction found in the World Trade Center debris proves that explosives were used.

All of Gage’s so-called evidence has been rebutted in peer-reviewed papers, by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, by the National Institute for Standards and Technology, by the American Society of Civil Engineers, by the 9/11 Commission Report, and, perhaps most memorably, by the 110-year-old engineering journal Popular Mechanics.

What is more interesting than these bizarre and debunked conspiracy theories is the way that Gage places his AIA membership front and center in his presentations. He seems to be attempting to cloak his organization in the officialdom of the venerable 155-year-old professional institution, even as AIA wants nothing to do with his organization. At the start of his latest film, he explains that he is “a licensed architect of over 20 years and member of the American Institute of Architects.”

Gage often seems to wield his AIA status in promoting his conspiracy theories. In making his case, he also regularly cites that more than 100 AIA members and at least six AIA Fellows have signed his petition calling for a new investigation. In total, Gage says that more than 1,700 of the petition’s roughly 16,000 signatures are from architects and engineers.

During the screening, Gage was at the very least intimating that his organization had been invited to AIA officially.

“I can’t tell you how grateful we were to have been accepted to be here in the boardroom at the national headquarters,” Gage said. “We hope this is the beginning of a very productive relationship.”

Aside from Gage, though, there was not a single other architect in the room, much less an official from AIA, or even another member. The 80-strong crowd was made up largely of members of the local 9/11 Truth movement and other political activists.

Gage was once warned by AIA not to … (keep reading) … Architects Shy From Trutherism – Architect Magazine.