Is that a FEMA Camp? – April 3, 2013 Edition

Is that a FEMA Camp? is a blog dedicated to investigating claims of FEMA camp locations. Below is some of their findings. Enjoy 🙂

April 3, 2013 Edition

Lansing, Michigan

The claim: FEMA detention facility.

What it really is: There are several urban renewal projects happening around the city, some of these projects may be mistaken as a FEMA camp to people who think that FEMA camps are real.

femacamp2_250pxSouthwest – possibly Berrien County, Michigan

The claim: FEMA detention center.

What it really is: This is obviously a bogus claim. Whomever made this claim can’t even give a relatively close location.

The claim is clearly made up.

Bay City, Michigan

The claim: Classic enclosure with guard towers, high fence, and close to shipping port on Saginaw Bay, which connects to Lake Huron. Could be a deportation point to overseas via St. Lawrence Seaway.

What it really is: I’ve taken a look at the city via Google Maps, and despite it’s name, there is no shipping port at Bay City, unless of course you count the public marines and a couple of privately piers. Other then that and a maybe a few industrial centers, there is nothing there that resembles the claim

escape_to_camp_fema_sticker_bumperSawyer AFB, Michigan

The claim: Upper Peninsula – south of Marquette – No data available.

What it really is: This Air Force base was closed in 1995 and in 1999 became the Sawyer International Airport.

Camp Grayling, Michigan

The claim: Michigan Nat’l Guard base has several confirmed detention camps, classic setup with high fences, razor wire, etc. Guard towers are very well-built, sturdy. Multiple compounds within larger enclosures. Facility deep within forest area.

What it really is: Using Google Maps I’ve taken a look around the area of the camp, and the only buildings that I can find that comes even relatively close to what resembles the claim are some private businesses and churches off base and some recreational areas.

conspiracy-theory-alertFt. Devens, Massachusetts

The claim: Active detention facility. More data needed.

What it really is: The base was closed in 1995, but was reopened in 2007 as an Army Reserve installation.

While there isn’t a Federal prison there, there is a Federal Medical center there that handles male inmates requiring specialized or long-term medical or mental health care.

Camp Edwards / Otis AFB – Cape Cod, Massachusetts

The claim: This “inactive” base is being converted to hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown.

What it really is: This base is a training center for the National Guard, and is not inactive.

Click here for the latest findings at “Is that a FEMA Camp?”

(Updated 4/18/13) Also See: FM 3-39.40 proves FEMA camps are real… Or does it? (Is that a FEMA Camp?)

7 responses

  1. My family moved to Bay City, Michigan in the sixties because my father was involved in the ships/shipping there. He was a scientist who worked for a private company that contracted with the government. So what the government doesn’t want lay people to know about, they don’t. You think you know something because of what you can or can’t “see” on google. yeah, ok.

    1. And how does this prove that FEMA camps exist?

      1. Isn’t it obvious? 🙂 Here is the logic: The government is doing everything you can’t prove the government ISN’T doing.

      2. Makes sense to me…

  2. talesfromthelou | Reply

    Oops, try this:

    1. I actually decided to read the actual document itself, rather than just rely on video. This here is the introduction:

      “I/R operations facilitate the ability to conduct rapid and decisive combat operations; deter, mitigate, and defeat
      threats to populations that may result in conflict; reverse conditions of human suffering; and build the capacity
      of a foreign government to effectively care for and govern its population. This includes capabilities to conduct
      shaping operations across the spectrum of military operations to mitigate and defeat the underlying conditions
      for conflict and counter the core motivations that result in support to criminal, terrorist, insurgent, and other
      destabilizing groups. I/R operations also include the daily incarceration of U.S. military prisoners at facilities
      throughout the world.
      This manual continues the evolution of the I/R function to support the changing nature of OEs. In light of
      persistent armed conflict and social turmoil throughout the world, the effects on populations remain a
      compelling issue. The world population will increase from 6 billion to 9 billion in the next two decades, with
      95 percent of the growth occurring in the developing world. By 2030, 60 percent of the world’s population will
      live in urban areas. Coexisting demographically and ethnically, diverse societies will aggressively compete for
      limited resources.
      Typically, overpopulated third world societies suffer from a lack of legitimate and effective enforcement
      mechanisms, which is generally accepted as one of the cornerstones of a stable society. Stability within a
      population may eliminate the need for direct military intervention. The goal of military police conducting
      detainee operations is to provide stability within the population, its institutions, and its infrastructure. In this
      rapidly changing and dynamic strategic environment, U.S. forces will compete with local populations for the
      same space, routes, and resources. The modular force’s ability to positively influence and shape the opinions,
      attitudes, and behaviors of select populations is critical to tactical, operational, and strategic success.
      An adaptive enemy will manipulate populations that are hostile to U.S. intent by instigating mass civil
      disobedience, directing criminal activity, masking their operations in urban and other complex terrain,
      maintaining an indistinguishable presence through cultural anonymity, and actively seeking the traditional
      sanctuary of protected areas as defined by the rules of land warfare. Such actions will facilitate the dispersal of
      threat forces, negate technological overmatches, and degrade targeting opportunities. Commanders will use
      technology and conduct police intelligence operations to influence and control populations, evacuate detainees
      and, conclusively, transition rehabilitative and reconciliation operations to other functional agencies. The
      combat identification of friend, foe, or neutral is used to differentiate combatants from noncombatants and
      friendly forces from threat forces.
      FM 3-39.40 is written with the acknowledgement that today’s OEs are much more variable than the
      environments addressed in previous doctrine. Military police must be prepared to deploy into any OE and
      conduct I/R operations in support of the commander while dealing with a wide range of threats and other
      influences. This manual builds on the collective knowledge and wisdom gained through recent operations,
      numerous lessons learned, doctrine revisions, and the deliberate process of informed reasoning throughout the
      Army. It is rooted in time-tested principles and fundamentals, while accommodating new technologies and
      organizational changes.
      This iteration of FM 3-39.40 has been driven by a lack of existing doctrine for the rehabilitation and
      reconciliation of detainees and changes in OEs, the Army structure, and Army and joint doctrine. Changes not
      already mentioned above that have directly affected this manual include the—
      • Integration of I/R operations within the overarching counterinsurgency or irregular warfare efforts of
      current operations.
      • Development of terms of reference for detainee typology and standardization of procedures for
      detainee assessment.
      Note. Recent decisions by the Executive Branch have adjusted the typology in JP 3-63.
      • Implementation of standardized programs and methods for rehabilitation, reconciliation, and
      repatriation of detainees.
      • Planning, employment, and sustainment of military police capabilities in support of all echelons while
      conducting I/R operations.
      • Alignment of I/R operations with the sustainment warfighting function.
      • Technological and doctrinal updates to material in other publications.
      The foundations of military police operations provided in this manual, together with related military police
      doctrine, will support the actions and decisions of commanders at all levels. Like FM 3-39, this manual is not
      meant to be a substitute for thought and initiative among military police leaders and Soldiers. No matter how
      robust the doctrine or advanced the military police capabilities and systems, it is the military police Soldier who
      must understand the OE, recognize shortfalls, and adapt to the situation on the ground. It is the adaptable and
      professional military police Soldiers of the Military Police Corps Regiment who are most important to the
      future and must successfully perform their basic skills to accomplish the mission, with or without technology

      This is meant for overseas operations, not here.

  3. talesfromthelou | Reply

    Explain this one please: Leaked Document Military Internment Camps in U.S – YouTube.

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