Ancient Aliens Debunked – Part 7

Baptism of Christ
by Aert de Gelder

Below is a painting by Dutch artist Aert De Gelder (1645-1727) circa 1710. Many UFO enthusiasts claim to see a depiction of something extraterrestrial.

“There are many strange UFO’s and Alien beings in ancient art but none as clear as this one.” [1]

“You see in the sky an undoubtedly (sic) space craft shining down on Christ”, [1] “a disk shaped object … (shining) beams of light down on John the Baptist and Jesus.” [2]

To begin with, the above image is actually a still frame from the History Channel’s joke series called Ancient Aliens. This low quality image of this painting, broadcast on Ancient Aliens, almost seems like a deliberate attempt by the producers to distort the contents of the original work in order to mislead viewers.

I’ll begin by showing you a higher quality version of this painting (bottom right) along with passages from the Gospels and you’ll begin to see this work of art in a different light (pun intended).

Mark 1:10:

«And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: And there came a voice from heaven, saying, “Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”»[3]

Matthew 3:16-17:

«And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.»[4]

Luke 3:21-22:

«Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.»[5]

John 1:32:

«And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode (remained) upon him.»[6]

All four of these passages from the Gospel are describing the intervention of God in the Baptism of Christ. Note in each passage the description of a divinity descending like a dove.

A dove depicted in a a circle from which rays of light are eminating was commonplace in religious art of this period. Here we see classic representations of the dove being used to symbolize the third person of the Trinity (Holy Spirit); taken from “The Dispute of the Sacrament” by Raphael (left) and Perugino’s Baptism of Christ (right):

We can go back literally thousands of years and see some of the first uses of a luminous disk to represent the divine.

blankA good example might be represented by the sun god Aton (also spelled “Aten”) in ancient Egyptian (14th century bce) religion. [7][8]

Right: The sun god Aton depicted as a solar disk emitting rays of light in ancient Egypt, over 2,000 years before Aert de Gelder created the Baptism of Christ.

Something else you won’t be told on the History channel: contained within the luminous disk in the Baptism of Christ is a dove:

As was discussed in “Annunciation with St. Emidius“, the dove is a very common symbol of the “Divinity”, or God, in many historical, religiously sacred works of art. The dove represents the presence of the Holy Spirit.

The Gospels (above) are describing the intervention of God in the Baptism of Christ and thus the use of the dove.

Where the “Annunciation with St. Emidius” depicted the immaculate conception with the dove symbolizing the Holy Spirit “touching” the Virgin Mary [9], we now see a series of Baptisms of Christ, most with the dove, some in a circle (of clouds or light) in the sky, representing the Holy Spirit:

Conclusions: Nothing mysterious here. Once again, no UFOs, nothing extraterrestrial, simply historical works of religious art representing the contents of religious scripture.

* The information contained herein is based primarily on the work of Diego Cuoghi and the sources listed below:
3. Mark 1:10
4. Matthew 3:16-17
5. Luke 3:21-22
6. John 1:32

27 responses

  1. I’ve lost faith in the divinity of christ from the painting of de gelder

  2. You see what you don’t want to see.

  3. Lmao ✨😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂

  4. This is an artist’s interpretation of Bilblical events – over a thousand years after said event was supposed to have happened.
    The UFO folks should realize that paintings are NOT photographs.

  5. taylor and Lauren harrington | Reply

    One of the first verses brought to mind at this time is found in Hebrews 1;2. ‘[God] hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.’ This is a definite reference to more than one world. A similar concept is shwon in Hebrews 11:3: ‘Through faith we understand thaat the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.’ Here again we find another reference to more than one world. Nothing was said about these worlds being inhabited but it is proof that other worlds were known in biblical times.

  6. Why is the proportion so different, though?
    The dove always takes around 90% of the radius of the ellipse in all the other interpretations. In this painting, it’s not even 10%.

  7. The “Immaculate Conception” is not the “Virgin Birth”. The first refers to Mary’s conception without sin, the second to Jesus’s conception by the Holy Spirit. Get your Catholicism right if you expect to come across as an expert.

  8. It is quite incredible how far some people will go to try to disprove alien influences. The Bible in several places talks of people who come from “Heaven” and say it is not unlikely that you will actually encounter “angels” from heaven in uman form. It is sort of like during the 50s to the 80s when they said UFOs can’t exist as they don’t pick up most of them on radar and then stealth planes came along.

    1. The biblical teachings on angelic and heavenly beings far predates the modern “space alien” craze.
      All this evidence of other-worldly influence doesn’t convince me of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial organic alien life. It just further convinces me of the existence of spiritual beings.
      Maybe those who saw angels weren’t seeing aliens. Maybe we’ve got it backwards. I think it’s that those who see aliens are actually seeing angels or demons.

  9. Read The Talmud Of Jemmanuel the real story of jesus christ

  10. Literally every example of the dove in artwork can be interpreted as a UFO- especially when the artwork was created by people with little knowledge of technology or machines whatsoever. This only made me believe further that Jesus was in fact, an alien.

  11. So that large metallic disk with finite edges and a tiny little bird stuck in the middle is just the holy spirit. Interesting that this “holy spirit” is frequently depicted with round metallic golden or “glowing” objects. You’re putting the cart before the horse but whatever helps you to feel better.

  12. So the tiny little dove is depicted in or under a substantial finite metallic-looking disc and we’re to assume it’s just the holy spirit. Interesting that round, frequently golden or “glowing” objects were employed in the depiction of this holy spirit. You’re putting the cart before the horse, but whatever helps you to feel better.

  13. The evidence in ancient art depicting other intelligent beings is plentiful, going back to pre history all over the world.
    To think we are so clever that we dismiss this notion out of sight while we continue to kill each other and a stroke.
    Do we really believe we are the smartest beings to universe has got?
    Mathematically speaking the chance we are alone in the universe is too small to consider, that’s coming from a slightly clever man called Stephen Hawkins!
    Does anyone really believe that another species would be similar to the silly stories we read about or see in daft movies?
    Why does the Vatican hide hundreds of artefacts that don’t comply with their doctrine?
    Why are we giving the choice of no alien life vs weirdo alien believer?
    Go figure!

  14. I haven’t seen the series and wouldn’t claim that we’re seeing a UFO, but this explanation is also a bit too easy. If the painter wanted to paint a dove, why didn’t he paint a clear figurine just like all the other painters have? If you wanted to depict a scene from the bible where they clearly mention a dove, then you would paint it in a way that all spectators would clearly see what it was. Unless this is the first modern artist of course.
    And why is the oval shape dark against the sky, while it is bright in all other paintings?

  15. You and the author of this rubbish article are all very competent at closing your eyes tight, plugging you ears with your fingers while tapping each other on the back and dictating your lame reaching reasons why not.
    The sad truth it is what it is and everyone including you know it even if you don’t want to face it. So go ahead make all the BS you want why it can’t be , it doesn’t change a thing! See you in the funny papers! 🙂

  16. Regarding your interpretation of The Baptism of Christ by Aert de Gelder is to me hilarious. You forgot one critical point in your argument: If the “Glowing ” dove is to represent the Divine, Then there should only be three distinct beams coming down in representation of the Divine as the Trinity- another common element in paintings of that time. If he went through all the trouble to be Biblicaly accurate, he WOULD NOT have made this compositional error.

  17. MIB, I will simply say I back you up, you have objectively illustrated with compelling graphic material that suggesting UFOs in the artwork shown to this Part is ludicrous. You have done it very calmly and effectively, the supporting art you have gathered is magnificent and speaks by itself, arguing against it like some previous comments here attempt to do is pointless. I wish you could show this on the TV programs seeing UFOs everywhere. I’m an atheist, although if I had to admit an entity over me, that would be nature. I don’t believe in gods, ghosts, angels or demons either, however I do remain open to the possibility of other forms of life, superior or not, the UFO thing is interesting but nothing concrete so far, and some of the points made by the Ancient Aliens Theorists are intriguing, alluring, entertaining and above all opportunist, making apparent sense for those gaps in history not fully explained scientifically yet, but under close scrutinity, it’s not but a beautiful story flagrantly put together.

    1. Thank you very much for the kudos, but i must give a gigantic hat tip to the references cited on each page. Those references taught me everything i wrote about in these articles. It is now my mission to educate others! 🙂

      You may wish to check out this webpage and their ancient aliens debunked videos:



    2. “it’s not but a beautiful story flagrantly put together.”

      So is the bible.

    3. I’m not going to convince you to believe in God, but if you’re willing to believe in the possibility of extraterrestrial life, which is yet unseen, why wouldn’t you be willing to believe in the possibility of spiritual life?

  18. What a joke. Actually, you have just re enforced the POV of it being an “ancient alien”.
    The other paintings with a dove(s) show light emanating from them, and it emanates from a central

    common point. But Gelding’s painting, the rays from above are obviously NOT from a light source like the sun, or a brilliantly shining being.
    As for the dove, that is pretty weak. I couldn’t even begin to tell what it is, if anything at all, unless it is zoomed in upon, which was not able to be done until recent times.

    It also is remarkably distinct from all the others re: the disk. You see the light upon Jesus, very bright,
    but the disk is not represented that way. It is shown as an object from which the light is coming from inside the object. Guess what, they didn’t have light bulbs or flashlights back then.

    1. I’ll go with the word of the art historians footnoted in the articles.

  19. The author of this article is misunderstanding the whole point of ancient astronaut theory. Let me explain it to you:

    Gods = Aliens
    Religion = The way this aliens were assimilated by the primitive humans.

    NASA engineer Joseph Blumrich has proven that actually you can build a functional spaceship reading the prophet Ezekiel story in the Bible…

  20. D. Marcus Calvert | Reply

    …There is nothing “debunked” here, actually. You’ve only proven the point. 100% of these renowned artisans are phenomenally gifted at painting very clear pictures of what they intend to portray within their works…yet, there are clearly disk like structures that apparently have a direct effect on the goings on. Still….if this were the only piece of clear evidence…I would probably delve further. But…alas…it is not.

  21. Everyone has the right to interpret things diffirentely. No one knows exactly why the paintings have these objects in them, yes there is a dove in the center of the disk in the heavens, nobody is denying that. But you cannot say with certainty that the way people described God spliting the heavens way back 2000 yrs ago was accurate by any means. And what does a round disk have to do with describing God? I have question for you, why does Ezequel describe an angel descending from the heavens “in a wheel with in wheels”? Why not a white dove? Why is the white dove only associated with Jesus and John the baptist? What I find interesting is when someone from modern times tries to interpret something from the biblical days that is by no means traditionally corraberating with the bible and religous beliefs of today, they are simply told that they dont understand the scriptures. But if they were to interpret them in the traditional beliefs then they must be right. Who’s to say that either interpretations are accurate? How can you with certainty that it is or not divine? You can’t, unless you were there. Nobody has the originall texts of the gospels, they are all copies and we don’t even know by whom.

    1. ..well said Eddie,no one knows for sure,the above article proves nothing,…most of the Ancient Aliens theories are outrageous i agree,….folks back then had no idea what they were looking at in the sky,its is possible that could be a disc ufo,i cant say for sure and the person who wrote the above article cant either unless he or she was there.

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